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With Phantoms

From Certain radio speeches of Ezra Pound, edited by William Levy, Cold Turkey Press, Rotterdam, 1975.

Europe calling. Ezra Pound speaking.

A topic that I have rarely touched in theses conversations, Germany and Lord Tennyson.

And of Tennyson I know quote but a very small fragment — « shall come the fight with phantoms and a pall ». Maybe it was veil, I haven’t been reading Tennyson lately, but that sticks in my head from the IDYLLS. « Shall come the fight with phantoms and a pall ». I guess it was palls.

Take it as prophecy.

And the phantom that the Anglo-Jew world is fighting or that the Anglo-American is fighting at the Jew usural instigation is the German phantom, not the reality.

And that phantom has been built out of lies until the pious and kindly American and the simple-hearted British boob by millions believe it / see it and hear it / and fail to grasp or to face the reality.

Though I talk almost never of Germany because I have seen very little of Germany. Old Ford toted me around about Hessen in 1911 telling me what a fin country was Germany. Since then I have been to Vienna and Frankfurt for Antheil’s opera and sped through Munich. And from Wien I went up to Wörgl and as the young can’t be expected to know my past history, I suppose I got to divigate.

But then I was interested in civilisation from the age of 12 when I first saw Venice. Venice looked good to me.

Anyhow, I came to Europe to get culture allright and to a great extent I got it, got it in the University of Pennsylvania.

It is to find out what had been written and what was the best of it in as many languages as I could get under my belt. Trying to know the real thing. What it was, what was the real thing, live. And then to history and economics to see what was going on in the world today, as I needed it in my business, my business being writing, and an epic being a container of history.

Of course you need music to understand real versification.

But coming from duckboard country I was interested in Latin order, order in stonework and in painting. Adamo me fecit, Pavia, architect that cut that column by hand, by his own hand, … integral intersest in the job of building San Zeno, San Zeno church in Verona. I like much of Paolo Uccello’s paintings. As a freshman I wrote on Paolo Uccello in the Louvre, I reckon.

Anyhow, apart from Walter von der Vogelweide, … let me jump the … and come to the ‘orses, the poetry of medieval Germany. In 1914 or in 1904 or 1905 I didn’t much cotton to German litterature in comparison with the Mediterranean, Dante, … , Provencal, Canzoni writers.

Anyhow, I didn’t cotton to German litterature as in philology. … of the old-fashioned German university system got my goat. I laid off reading German until I read Leo Frobernius and the new German university Kulturmorphologie Institue idea in Frankfurt. It started me reading German to read ERLEBTE ERDTEILE.

Also being in England for twelve years, I certainly saw the last war from a London angle. Lumps in my throat when I heard even in this one that Amiens had been taken. I could take all the rest of it, but when I heard Amiens was taken, it was a tough one.

But justice is justice / and lies / the lies are a poor effort / poor substitute for justice. And as designed, I reckon, Hitler has been lied about more than any man living, except Mussolini.

Now about Mussolini, I know they are lies. I was there for 17 years and I have known for 17 years they were lies / lies and threats against Italy after the Versailles treaty.

« And the economic war has begun », said Robert Mond in the year of Sanctions. « Napoleon wath a goodth man, it took us 20 years to crwuth him ; it will not take us 20 years to crwuth Mussolini. »

Well, it used to be said in London that Alfred Mond looked like one end of a pig and that Robert Mond looked like the other. The form certainly did show the spirit inside them. I believe the younger generation says it and has had a … but it sure has heredity working against him. And a few who want to run on it certainly ain’t choosing a bed of roses.

Sure some Jews aspire to honesty, kindly impulses, gestures of opulence, but God help ‘em and God save humanity from them.

Well, few reports about Germany have got into English or American circulation. I doubt if many of them have got into second editions, so when I contradict lies about Germany any ground is limited. I have one or two fragmentary first hand reports, I have printed data.

Now when I was doing my job on Sigismundo Malatesta I came to the conclusion that documents, personal letters and what not proved one thing. A letter proved what the bloke who wrote it wanted the receiver to believe on the day he wrote it. The rest of history has to derived from computation. If documents disappear with remarkable true in – [ac]cidents, say the reports of an event in February, in 1424, there was someone trying to keep ‘em from the public — especially if dispatches for a particular day disappear from six archives simultaneously and so forth.

Well, I know the TIMES, TELEGRAPH, YORKSHIRE POST and all the damned kikery, Anglo-Kikery, archbishopry of England lied about Italy. And I know from first hand that facts about Germany did not get much Anglo-Saxon publicity.

And there is no guess work when writing my history, that is I separate guess work from the solid and the solid is for example that a certain idea was printed on a given day. And I do not assert things to be so from reading translations not till I have seen the originals. And that is to say I treat a translation as a translation not having seen the original. And not having read the English version of MEIN KAMPF I will not discuss it.

This book was translated into Italian and printed in 1933 and Mussolini published the second half first so the Italien public had a chance to get the program clear at the start. And I affirm that there has been for years, has been the most goddamned ignorance and misapprehension of that program in England and America.

I, myself, had only a vague idea.

I wasn’t intent on Germany, I had my job with my writing and my recording in Italy, trying to get things straight.

I could see it was good here in Italy.

I said it was the one inch of solid ground where a man could see straight and write it, could buck the international money swine and not disappear altogether. And I reckoned in a general way about Germany and so on.

Well, not till the time of the Sanctions did I begin to consider Germany from a new angle. Up till then I had drifted on pretty much on the old 1914 vieuw except seeing Germany as the defender of European communities. Not till I was sitting by the bandstand or standing, I had … meaning. Hitler perhaps ahead with greater justice / his voice on the radio giving a survey of Europe. Then I began to wonder. Well, maybe I was behind-hand in reading MEIN KAMPF.

But do you yet know what is in it ? Have you a clear idea of the program ?

Hitler in 1942 said that Germany ought to see Italy, see Italy, Fascist Italy as the one ray of light in a world that was going to sunset, sinking. Just as I saw it as one inch of solid space. Well, the Fuehrer, Adolf Hitler, he did something about it while I was listening and looking. There are different degrees of efficiency.

Now what, were and are the three planks of the Hitler program as set forth in the opening of LA MIA BATTAGLIA ? / the Italian translation of the second half of MEIN KAMPF.

Well, the first one is … , health of a race.

Now every American or Englander of my generation or that before or after my generation knew and knows that we were up against a problem of be slave or go free. Any man not born rich in our time / he had to mate late / breed late / and breed few / or else go into slavery.

Curtis Moffett said to me that when he saw what would happen if he was a good boy, he decided on badness, that he would be a bad boy and float on top of the current.

Well, I landed in Europe as my incipient biographers have stated with justice with 80 bucks, that is 80 American dollars — pre-Morgenthau — and my clothing. And that led me to a fresher vieuw of some problems.

As for the Hitler program / it was what we all knew and did nothing about, namely that the breeding of human beings deserves more care and attention that the breeding of horses and whippets, or even the breeding of sheep, goats and the larger livestock.

That is the point one of the Nazi program.

Breed good and preserve the race, the breed thorough, that is for thoroughbreds. Conserve the best of the race, conserve the best elements. That means eugenics as opposed to race suicide and it dit not and does not please the narrow-minded Jews who want to kill off all the other races whom they cannot substitute and drive down the race into wage slavery or Soviet slavery under the goddamned kikes. Kikes to be staffed by a bevy of Churchills and Edens and Stafford Crippses.

Secondly, what is the second point of Hitler’s program ?

Personal responsability. A political system in which he can’t pass the buck is very unpleasant for hired Members of Parliement, … , Jews, butter and eggs men, fakers like Wendell Wilkie and M. P’s and congressmen financed by Jews put into the legislature to defraud the people in lieu of interest, and get there by bank money. They can all be on committees, always, all ways avoid all responsabilities for swindling law / such as was the demonitization of silver in 1873 / or the sale of the U.S. in 1863 / or the Federal Reserve System and its infamous workings / making people pay two dollars for every dollar spent by the government.

Well, Hitler having seen the Jew puke on the German democracies was all out for responsability, government officials, et cetera, to feel responsible for their acts. Most unpleasant for the Warburg’s invisible Jew government.

And the third point was the study of history.

Look at history !

Well now what program, what program did that contradict ? I ask you.

If you are such low down and goddarned suckers or such British blockheads or such unfathomable irredeemable ignorami as to not know what program that contradicts, then there is not a great deal of hope for your posterity.

I may tell you someday where the opposing program is found, if you are too weak-kneed and puny to trace it. And when you / or if you do trace it / you may see why the smokescreen was erected and why people began to see evil in Hitler.

And to who says / thinks / evil against Hitler ? We may someday go into that also.

Ezra Pound speaking.

May 18, 1942.